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CWShredder tutorial

Postby clif_notes » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:09 pm

Hello all,

I'd like to provide a quick review of CWShredder in my newsletter and I need a reference to a good tutorial to recommend to the readers. I found one at bleepingcomputer after I looked here. It seems we don't have one yet. If you wish to write up a tutorial I can hold off on publishing for another week or two.

My best wishes to you all, and have a nice day.

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Postby TeMerc » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:41 am

I missed this post Clif, sorry.

My first question is, which Shredder are planning on doing a tut on? You know Merijn sold it to Intermute, and the support is not nearly as good as when he had it.

Not to mention the popularity of its use has declined among HJT analysts.

Let me know.
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Postby clif_notes » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:40 pm

Hi Tom!

You know Merijn sold it to Intermute

Sure, I made sure all my readers knew when it occurred back in October. You warned me then that I should take a wait and see attitude towards Intermute.

which Shredder are planning on doing a tut on?

The freeware (standalone) version. I was just going to review it and provide a link to a tutorial. I wanted to give you the opportunity to add one to this forum or suggest another one somewhere else.

I usually take the attitude, "Why re-invent the wheel?". I wouldn't even attempt a tutorial on my own.
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Postby TeMerc » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:29 pm

OK, your gonna need to clarify, both are free, one comes stand alone and incuded with Intermute SpySubtract.

If your thinking of doing one for the Intermute one, I would say not to bother, with zero support, no real clarification to tell which variants it really works on, it would almost be pointless. Essentially, its just either hit the fix button or scan button.

At least with Merijns Shredder, there was as debug mode which you could use to check if a site was on the list which Merijn or some others maiintained. No such list exists anymore in relation to the Intermute app.
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Postby clif_notes » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:06 pm

I don't consider the Intermute SpySubtract program to be freeware. It's definitely trialware.

You are saying you don't recommend CWShredder anymore?
Is the Intermute standalone no longer useful?

I was talking about the one at this page:
http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html (now at version 2.14)

I also found a copy of CWShedder at Bleeping Computer.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/files/cwshredder.php
I'm guessing it's an old Merijin copy.

and one at Major Geeks:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4086.html
Last known Merijin copy.

and one at adwarereport:
http://www.adwarereport.com/mt/archives/000059.html
I'd be afraid to try this one. I don't trust the site.

I'm all ears ...
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Postby clif_notes » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 pm

Just downloaded the Intermute Standalone version 2.14 and gave it a trial run so I'd know what it looks like.

I fired it up and it gave me a license agreement which seemed fairly standard. (no gotcha's I could see)

I clicked the scan button and it said it was scanning for about 20 or 30 variants and listed them. It wouldn't let me copy the list. (I don't care for that, I'm sure it was done on purpose)

Nothing nasty found (no surprises there).

I checked and it didn't install any files.
It did add a registry entry.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\InterMute\CWShredder

The entry seems to be a tag it checks so that it displays the license agreement only once.

I just confirmed that. Once you remove the registry entry it displays the license agreement again.
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Postby TeMerc » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:39 pm

The Intermute app has never really gained full confidence in the HJT arena. Too many f\ps right off, no support to give feedback, and the folks who did actually take the time to do so(myself included) waited weeks for any response from anyone at Intermute. And the response was not all that great.

I am still convinced they bought Shredder more for its potential to lure cusotmers to buy the SpySubtract app. The best evidence of that was the crap they installed in the first few versions, it installed a bunch of folders, which had their name on it, and its not so much that it was a bad thing, we were just used to Merijn handling it. They did change that after a couple of versions, and finally released a version which had no bugs in it and as stand alone with nothing extra.

I am actually going to post a question or two about it in the back rooms to get some more info and see who is using it.

The copy at Bleeping is indeed the old one, Grinler refuses to change it last I heard.

MajorGeeks also has it, and I concur about adwarereport, not to be trusted.

I'll let you kow about the results of anything I find about the newer Shredder.
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Postby G3 » Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:39 am

Tom - As a newbie to the spyware war I use CWShredder 2.14 only as a utility to do "in-between" scans along with Kephyr Bazooka. Both are limited in what they do/scan for. I depend upon Spy Sweeper, Ad-Aware Personnal, SpyBot S&D and McAfee Anti-Spyware (and a few on-line scanners) for full system spyware scans.

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Postby JeanInMontana » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:27 pm

Well I use it maybe once a month. The F/P stopped at build 2.12 I think and I have not had anything found since.....I am sure I am clean also.

I do think you have a valid point Tom, it was bought to enhance sales.
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Postby NonSuch » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:21 am

I have been rather disappointed in CWShredder since its purchase by Intermute.... mostly due to the false positives.

I have v 2.13 on one computer and its scan results invariably indicate that the computer's infected with CWS.Smartsearch, although the system is entirely clean. I also have Merijn's last version, 1.59.0.1 and it always shows that this system is clear of CWS.

It would certainly be nice if Intermute would put forth an effort to get rid of false positives. ;)
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